
PRO 6.5" Shallow Coaxial Hybrid Mid-Range Loudspeaker with Built-in Driver 150 Watts Rms 4-Ohm








PRO 6.5" Shallow Coaxial Hybrid Mid-Range Loudspeaker with Built-in Driver 150 Watts Rms 4-Ohm
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Key Features
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
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Technical Data - Manual
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SPECS
SKU
PRO-HY6.4MSL
Nominal Diameter
6.5" / 165.1mm
Nominal Impedance
4 Ohm
RMS Power Handling
150W
MAX Power Handling
300W
Sensitivity (1w/1m)
93dB
Frequency Response
100Hz-20Khz
Recommended HI Pass Crossover
140Hz
Number of ways
2 ways
Pair or Single
Single
Grill Included
Yes
Woofer Specifications
Voice Coil Diameter
1.5" / 38.6mm
Voice Coil Former Material
KSV
Winding Material
CCAW
Cone Material
Paper
Surround Material
Cloth
Basket Material
Steel
Basket Color/Finish
Glossy Red
Magnet Material
Ferrite
Magnet Weight
17.5 Oz
Displacement Volume
Thiele & Small Parameters
Equivalent Volume Vas
3.21L / 0.11ft3
Excursion (one way) Xmax
2mm
Free Air Resonance Fs
160Hz
Mechanical Factor Qms
8.12
Electrical Factor Qes
1.245
Total Factor Qts
1.086
Mechanical Mass Mms
7.452g
Mechanical Compliance Cms
182.236 mm/N
BL Factor BL
4.705
Voice Coil Inductance Le
16.78mH
Cone Area Sd
136.848 Cm2
DC Resistance Re
3.2 ohm
Mechanical Mass w/o air Mmd
8.60g
Driver Specifications
Voice Coil Diameter
1" / 25.4mm
Voice Coil Former Material
Kapton
Winding Material
CCAW
Diaphragm Material
Titanium
Magnet Material
Neodymium
Horn Diameter
3" / 76.2mm
Speaker Measurement
Overall Diameter
6.92" / 176mm
Overall Depth
3.52" / 89.5mm
Front Mount Baffle Cutout
5.6" / 142mm
Mounting Depth
2.77" / 70.5mm
Motor Diameter
4.33" / 110mm
Shipping Info
Gross Single Unit Weight
3.75
Single Unit Box Dimensions L x W x H (Inches)
7.25 x 7.25 x 4.25
Quantity of Units in Master Carton
8
Gross Master Carton Weight
32
Master Carton Dimensions L x W x H (Inches)
15.25 x 15.25 x 9.5
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Product Overview
Product Overview
DS18 PRO-HY6.4MSL Perfect audio is possible with the PRO-HY6.4MSL! We've taken one of our Pro-Audio midrange and merged it seamlessly with a high-intensity driver, and packaged it into a shallow and slim design.
With 300W MAX power handling and 150W RMS power handling, the PRO-HY6.4MSL gets extremely LOUD with remarkable clarity. Thanks to the frequency response range of 100Hz to 20KHz, the PRO-HY8.4MSL’s excel in reproducing crystal-clear audio with astonishing depth and precision.
With its sleek dimensions and a mounting depth of 2.77 inches, this speaker is incredibly versatile, fitting effortlessly into a wide range of applications.
One of the standout features of this speaker is its titanium diaphragm driver. Titanium is known for its exceptional stiffness-to-weight ratio, resulting in fast and accurate response across a wide frequency range. The magnet used in the driver is made of neodymium this allows the driver to efficiently convert electrical signals into sound waves, contributing to its overall performance and power handling capabilities. To further optimize the driver's performance, a 3-inch horn diameter is incorporated. The horn aids in directing and focusing the sound waves, ensuring maximum dispersion and projection. It also features the DS18 branding so you can show the world you like it LOUD!
Prepare to be blown away by the power, clarity, and precision of the PRO-HY6.4MSL.




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PRO 6.5" Shallow Coaxial Hybrid Mid-Range Loudspeaker with Built-in Driver 150 Watts Rms 4-Ohm
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Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
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- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
Impedance:
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
- 6.5" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 150 Watts(300 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 93dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 8 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- 98dB
Size:
Impedance:
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Shallow Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 200 Watts(400 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 2 Ohm ~ 97dB
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- With Grill
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 6x9" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6x9" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 10" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 350 Watts(700 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- 100dB ~ w/Grill
- 10" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 350 Watts(700 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- 100dB ~ w/Grill
Size:
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6.5" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 225 Watts(450 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 6x9" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 6x9" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
- 8" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 250 Watts(500 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4-Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IP55
- Easily Repaired With The PRO-HY/VC
Size:
- 10" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 350 Watts(700 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- 100dB ~ w/Grill
- 10" Hybrid Coaxial Mid-Range w/Driver
- RMS Power: 350 Watts(700 Watts Peak)
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- Ferrite & Neodymium Magnets
- Water Resistant IPX5
- 100dB ~ w/Grill
- 1" Replacement Diaphragm
- Titanium
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- For: HY Series Loudspeaker/Driver
- Single
- 1" Replacement Diaphragm
- Titanium
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
- For: HY Series Loudspeaker/Driver
- Single
Very loud
These speakers are nice and loud. Clear mids and highs. Can hear at any speed.
Really really loud and crisp and clear. Can’t complain, I paired these with my amp/dsp and it’s great. Will be buying more products.
Really brought out the highs in jeep sound bar.
PRO 6.5" Shallow Coaxial Hybrid Mid-Range Loudspeaker with Built-in Driver 150 Watts Rms 4-Ohm
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These speakers in my opinion out perform higher priced tower speaker from ds18 and other major brands!!!

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I was skeptical ordering these because I thought to myself how much difference a tweeter will produce, so I figured why not. Glad I made this purchase. They are MUCH louder than the factory tweeters, no longer have the volume at 35 to drown out wind noise to hear my music. And they are completely plug and play to the factory harness; these took me no less than 5 minutes to install tops! Huge upgrade at a great price point. Switching all my speakers now to DS18.

These pods fit so nice and look so good. I had dual 6” and I wanted to get dual 8”. I was going to get custom Dual 8” pods but was going to spend three times as much. This was perfect for what I personally wanted with my setup. They fit perfectly into the wheel well without having to modify it. It has a harness that is labeled for easy installation and hardware to bolt the pod down. It uses digital LED lights but I am not using that. This was a surprise and it is a great deal.

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Thank you thank you ya'll family 4 life!!!

Definitely recommended buy

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